xHP Flashtool: Official Beta Results Thread for 6HP21

Cheezy

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What happened ?
Not entirely sure, I connected my car back when it was still in demo mode but didn't reconnect when I purchased the license, it asked to vin lock and I thought because it was only connected to my car that it was the right vin. First 4 digits were right but I don't have my vin memorized. xHP is making it right, and for that I am grateful.
 

08_335i

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How did you do it? I have NCS expert too. I tried following RBT's instructions but i got lost almost right away.
I honestly can't make it any more simpler then his instructions are on how to do it, it's really simple.
 

trebila

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I noticed 2 issues in 3rd-> 2nd downshift in D mode stage 3 v1_0 :

- coming to a stop slowly, I can hear and feel a "clunk" in the transmission, when the AT downshift from 3rd to 2nd (low rpm, around 1000 rpm). I think it occurs during the ongoing clutch phase. not smooth, and certainly not healthy for the clutch.

-coming to a stop rapidly, the trans downshift from 3rd to 2nd too soon, I can hit 2500 rpm when going in 2nd, not smooth at all, then it upshift immediately after in 3rd when I release the brake pedal and slightly accelerate. It should stay in 3rd the whole time.

no answer from xHP tuner about thoses issues since I posted this.
I would not be happy to switch back to alpina trans flash because of this...
 

08_335i

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no answer from xHP tuner about thoses issues since I posted this.
I would not be happy to switch back to alpina trans flash because of this...

I thin he's dealing with a lot since release. My flash failed and made my car innoperable, had to get it towed home. He says a hot fix got released for it, so i'll be trying that when I get home today. If not, he's going to have to wire through to me and fix the car that way which he's done to a few people now. I think a lot more problems came up car to car then was expected.
 

trebila

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that could make sense.
but is the guy developping the flasher the same person than the tuner ?
 

trebila

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I'm having torque limiter issues on IJE0S (AWD Xi and RWD).
2 first cars were I8A0S, and no torque limiter issue.
Never had torque limiter issue on IJE0S/INA0S DCT for years.

but IJE0S (rwd or Xi) are not working correctly, from my first tests.
 

Jeffman

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Hmmm...
I'm seeing too many issues to pull the trigger yet. Getting stuck and not being able to quickly recover is a major concern for me as this is for my DD. Looks like it's still in beta???
 

doublespaces

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Hmmm...
I'm seeing too many issues to pull the trigger yet. Getting stuck and not being able to quickly recover is a major concern for me as this is for my DD. Looks like it's still in beta???
That was an error I believe which was induced due to improper coding of the headlights. There was already a version released which makes that check in advance so the failed flashes don't happen. If it was another error, @08_335i would have to elaborate.
 

Jeffman

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Thanks for the clarification. Trebila also seems to be having a number of issues and questions for Richard going unanswered. I'm fine waiting a little while.
 
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bradsm87

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I'm having torque limiter issues on IJE0S (AWD Xi and RWD).
2 first cars were I8A0S, and no torque limiter issue.
Never had torque limiter issue on IJE0S/INA0S DCT for years.

but IJE0S (rwd or Xi) are not working correctly, from my first tests.

Ah bugger. That's so confusing. Are you able to log the exact Nm that this happens, both in terms of the JB4 value as well as the testo value that the TCU sees? Is it the same limit across all RPM or does it vary depending on RPM? I'm more than happy to have a good search through the DME and TCU ROMs for potential limits if we can pinpoint the point where the limit happens.
 

NapsterAU

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Hi guys, long time reader.

Just some feedback for the N54 stage 3 XHP
I am having issues with slight slipping going from 3rd gear into 4th at WOT at mid to high RPM.
4th to 5th gear at WOT and mid to high RPM will shift into 5 and then what feels like back into 4th but still showing 5th on the gear indicator and shortly after revs to the moon and hits gearbox fault.

Coming from the Alpina flash i never encountered these issues so just looking for some help as to why XHP could be causing issues now.
 
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doublespaces

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Hi guys, long time reader.

Just some feedback for the N54 stage 3 XHP
I am having issues with slight slipping going from 3rd gear into 4th at WOT at mid to high RPM.
4th to 5th gear at WOT and mid to high RPM will shift into 5 and then what feels like back into 4th but still showing 5th on the gear indicator and shortly after revs to the moon and hits gearbox fault.

Coming from the Alpina flash i never encountered these issues so just looking for some help as to why XHP could be causing issues now.

Welcome!

How much power are you putting down?
 

RayBan

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I'm having torque limiter issues on IJE0S (AWD Xi and RWD).
2 first cars were I8A0S, and no torque limiter issue.
Never had torque limiter issue on IJE0S/INA0S DCT for years.

but IJE0S (rwd or Xi) are not working correctly, from my first tests.

Keep in mind, that the XI have additional TQ limiters in the transfer case. It's interesting to see, that some of the DME flashes seem to apply their own TQ limits, as soon as they sense a 6AT. I know that the MSD80/81 units do this on their own, without the need to code. They just listen to the CAN Bus and according to the messsages floating around, they configure itself in MT/6AT/DCT mode.

Hi guys, long time reader.

Just some feedback for the N54 stage 3 XHP
I am having issues with slight slipping going from 3rd gear into 4th at WOT at mid to high RPM.
4th to 5th gear at WOT and mid to high RPM will shift into 5 and then what feels like back into 4th but still showing 5th on the gear indicator and shortly after revs to the moon and hits gearbox fault.

Coming from the Alpina flash i never encountered these issues so just looking for some help as to why XHP could be causing issues now.

Maybe your trans just needs some more cold/warm cycles to adapt. On some cars all works instant like intended, on others it seems to take some time. I strongly relate this, to how much the adaptions have already jumped in for wear and slip in the past. Don't go out and beat on it. (it won't adapt in such situations) Drive it around normally in D mode and let it coast. It adapts quickest in low load/coasting situations.
 
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NapsterAU

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Maybe your trans just needs some more cold/warm cycles to adapt. On some cars all works instant like intended, on others it seems to take some time. I strongly relate this, to how much the adaptions have already jumped in for wear and slip in the past. Don't go out and beat on it. (it won't adapt in such situations) Drive it around normally in D mode and let it coast. It adapts quickest in low load/coasting situations.

Ok i will give that a go.

Also did some more testing on the way home and actually found 5th was slipping bad that it would shift into 6th.
Tried a few time just sitting in 5th and flooring it and it just slips and bumps up a gear. If you are WOT in 4th and shifts into 5th then thats when the gearbox faults.

Torque reported by MHD was just under 600NM