Wasn't RB was all TD04 before VTT even came to the platform right? PURE was TD04 always as well? Both were out before the Chinesum ZAGE turbos that VTT rebranded even hit the market.
The VTT stock frame upgrade were with TD03 internals and the larger TD04 wheels this was why they were cheaper than RB & Pure but had higher failure rates as the internals were not up to carrying the larger TD04 wheels. Less machining and being able to use the native TD03 shaft/internals was for higher profits margins and more market share.
At least this is what I remember this is like circa 2016 4 years ago. I never was too keen on upgraded twins so I may have my facts wrong. I am sure Chris will point it out. Not that who came out with TD04s 1st matters at all for this thread mind you.
Oh ... you meant different kind of boomHa. So true. Back in the 90s with my MR2 turbo. Loved it. Hit the hammer..... wait....wait, boom!
Are you rwd? And what is your tire and suspension setup? Asking cause not many have good results on hybrids so I try take note if winning combosI have Super RB Evos which have done 8,000 kms with no issues. My last dyno reading was 22 mths ago on a DynoDynamic Dyno at 553hp. Car has achieved 10.77s down the dragstrip. Currently, they seem to perform very well.
I like the fact that you run them and dont cheerlead not many keep it 100I have MMP S3s, and they've been working (knocking on wood). That being said - I would LOVE to sell them and get a set of the RB GFs. I think Rob is a major dick when it comes to his advertising methods, but I really liked the design of them, and at least with the one customer result posted so far, the results are pretty dang impressive to say the least.
I wouldn't recommend the MMP 1Ks at all - I have yet to see a single dyno or log that shows decent spool, and that's not even why I wouldn't recommend them - that all boils down to MMP's horrible customer service and slimy ways. I am completely disappointed in Mauricio. He turned out to be such a slimeball.
If you're considering a single, I'd look at the Speedtech bottom mount. You get a nice cast manifold, and still a bit of stealth since its down low, and a very attractive price point.
I like the fact that you run them and dont cheerlead not many keep it 100
I felt better when I saw you took three hydra plunge with me and I have zero regrets even with the outlet ordeal. I would go gf if I hadn't gone hydra, one thing I must say is I think other turbos that flow less are rated way higher. Hydra gave lb min specs but I bet they are higher than alot of other turbos on market. I think people just push the turbos hard cause this turned into a very narrow upgrade path platform. Just boost not alot of heads ,cams ,etc. Anyway at first I wondered about the 800s but I make 24 lb with more left in turbos and on 93. Now with meth I could turn up little but don't think I should cause I believe I would start falling off efficiency island.@Rob09msport glad you've got experience with the Hydra's - it's going as I expected. I was hoping to have mine in much sooner, but we're still ... not ... ready ... so I have no news to report on my Hydra's. Just high hopes as I think the design/approach is right for my needs.
@Bmxr152 as a BMW tech, you have well more knowledge and variability that a lot of folks. Maybe I'd ask, have you considered the single option, like Speedtech or CES? I believe there are good twins on the market, but at this juncture price point (no longer $5-7k) has gotten to where it is short term cost competitive and arguably longer term cost advantageous.
Filippo
I felt better when I saw you took three hydra plunge with me and I have zero regrets even with the outlet ordeal. I would go gf if I hadn't gone hydra, one thing I must say is I think other turbos that flow less are rated way higher. Hydra gave lb min specs but I bet they are higher than alot of other turbos on market. I think people just push the turbos hard cause this turned into a very narrow upgrade path platform. Just boost not alot of heads ,cams ,etc. Anyway at first I wondered about the 800s but I make 24 lb with more left in turbos and on 93. Now with meth I could turn up little but don't think I should cause I believe I would start falling off efficiency island.
I got a tune from Him but currently have v8bait making a flex fuel meth tune. Omar was great only reason I have justin Is he has tuned my car for yrs and the using ff for meth map switching hasn't really been done. Only other person Is twisted tuning.My N53 spec HP800s are built, should have them stateside shortly once a couple other parts are ready and boxed up. Can't wait to make good power on 93 without boost cranked to the moon.
Did Omar tune your 650s?
I felt better when I saw you took three hydra plunge with me and I have zero regrets even with the outlet ordeal. I would go gf if I hadn't gone hydra, one thing I must say is I think other turbos that flow less are rated way higher. Hydra gave lb min specs but I bet they are higher than alot of other turbos on market. I think people just push the turbos hard cause this turned into a very narrow upgrade path platform. Just boost not alot of heads ,cams ,etc. Anyway at first I wondered about the 800s but I make 24 lb with more left in turbos and on 93. Now with meth I could turn up little but don't think I should cause I believe I would start falling off efficiency island.
Yes. The good kind of head pushing back into the seat sort of boomOh ... you meant different kind of boom![]()
Filippo
still want to know how hydra got those lb/min ratings. @Hydra Performance