My DCT conversion to M3 GWS/FLASH

[Begood69]

I have an issue as i can t find a way to connect the m3 "power/dsc off" buttons. Can someone help. And where can i get the connector/ and connected to what cables. I am swapping from AT to M3 DCT with gtw. All m3 modules. Swl/jbe/dsc/gws thx with drivelogic. Thx

 

[LMB335is]

Power button is a dead button in a non M application. You can run it to pin 12 on DME subcon 1 if you want but it won't get you anything

If you're using the M3 ABS/DSC unit you will bypass the JBBF. The M3 unit connects directly to the center console dsc button. In non M applications (and 1M) it is routed through the JBBF. I dont know the connector p/n offhand for the center console switch cluster. It's in the thread or the other thread somewhere along with the pinout. I do remember pin 41 of the DSC module connects directly to switch cluster. It's a on/off switch.

 

[Begood69]

On so i have an IKM0S on msd81.
Also have the m3dsc/m3swl, what is the best way to connect. And if someone has a schematic to help me. About the dme connection, what pin out of the dme and on the plug of the switch.
Also the dsc need to b rewire, as one of the post show on here. And about the new dsc sensor since i have a 07 3e5i. Thx

 

[LMB335is]

On so i have an IKM0S on msd81.
Also have the m3dsc/m3swl, what is the best way to connect. And if someone has a schematic to help me. About the dme connection, what pin out of the dme and on the plug of the switch.
Also the dsc need to b rewire, as one of the post show on here. And about the new dsc sensor since i have a 07 3e5i. Thx

I've had IKMOS, M3 SZL, ABS/DSC, GWS, etc. for almost two years now. Power button is a function of the M3 DME. You gain nothing by connecting it, but like I said, it's pin 12 in the DME #1 subconnector if you're so inclined. MDrive is also a subfunction to the M3 DME. The M button as it relates to the 1M and IKMOS just gets you increased throttle sensitivity which can be accessed through newly public tables and xdf.

The DSC needs one direct wire from pin 41 of the unit to the switch cluster connector.
https://bmw.spoolstreet.com/threads...g-to-m3-flash-and-gws.3011/page-22#post-38896
You'll need the updated longitudinal sensor.

 

[Begood69]

I've had IKMOS, M3 SZL, ABS/DSC, GWS, etc. for almost two years now. Power button is a function of the M3 DME. You gain nothing by connecting it, but like I said, it's pin 12 in the DME #1 subconnector if you're so inclined. MDrive is also a subfunction to the M3 DME. The M button as it relates to the 1M and IKMOS just gets you increased throttle sensitivity which can be accessed through newly public tables and xdf.

The DSC needs one direct wire from pin 41 of the unit to the switch cluster connector.
https://bmw.spoolstreet.com/threads...g-to-m3-flash-and-gws.3011/page-22#post-38896
You'll need the updated longitudinal sensor.

Got it all running..
M button, m3dsc/m3szl, m3gws and 1km0s tune.
Dsc off works, m button works. Cic does not updste yet. And powee button/led inop, no lights on the dsc/power button yet.
Did adaptation on the dct.. and drove about 60 miles did a small log at 17psi 3-4 gears... on DS-S6 dsc off. It felt good no slippage yet at 500ish whp/wtq on 93 oct. I will drive some more before increasing boost. And report.

 

[doublespaces]

Excellent! Be sure to share any tips that you got stuck on to save the next guy the hassle

 

[derekgates]

Got it all running..
M button, m3dsc/m3szl, m3gws and 1km0s tune.
Dsc off works, m button works. Cic does not updste yet. And powee button/led inop, no lights on the dsc/power button yet.
Did adaptation on the dct.. and drove about 60 miles did a small log at 17psi 3-4 gears... on DS-S6 dsc off. It felt good no slippage yet at 500ish whp/wtq on 93 oct. I will drive some more before increasing boost. And report.

Congrats!

I am very curious about the POWER/DSC button and the (M) button!


I finally found one of those POWER/DSC buttons next to the GWS but have no clue how to wire it up? Did you hardwire that?

 

[Begood69]

Congrats!

I am very curious about the POWER/DSC button and the (M) button!


I finally found one of those POWER/DSC buttons next to the GWS but have no clue how to wire it up? Did you hardwire that?

Switch plug part # 61 13 6 909 008
POWER = DME grey# 12 - pin 4 on switch (inop with msd81) M button on steering shpuld be the switch table one of 1M. ( can bus Msg ID 399) thx Roma.
DSC OFF = DSC pin# 41 - pin 6 on switch
GRD 31 - pin 1 on switch connector
LIGHT - pin 2 on switch (thx @LMB335is)
Lighting idk yet.

Excellent! Be sure to share any tips that you got stuck on to save the next guy the hassle

I got stock with the wiring of the YAW to dsc
No need to change any on DSC.
All is in the YAW connector for older models like mine . This is the correct pinning:
DSC - YAW
39 - 4
27 - 1
11 - 3
26 - 2

 

[Begood69]

Does any one remember where is it the coding fix for the rpms going to 0 when on gear. ?

 

[LMB335is]

Does any one remember where is it the coding fix for the rpms going to 0 when on gear. ?

DZM_DISP_RPM in the KOMBI

 

[Begood69]

DZM_DISP_RPM in the KOMBI

Setted to wert_01
Thx fixed.

 

[Begood69]

- Did anyone ever in a swap had the shift lights working? If yes, how?
- Does anyone figured the power button with the sport table vs the confort table on 1M bin? Working?
- MDM? Working?
- Variable LC? How do i activate? Not sure it works yet?
- last, does anyone using JB4 mobile on a swap can see the tranny temps on the jb4 mobile or on a log? I can t and before i troubleshoot that i wanted to make sure it was possible to read them. Also wu
What do u set ur timing value: 5? 8?

 

[LMB335is]

- Did anyone ever in a swap had the shift lights working? If yes, how?
- Does anyone figured the power button with the sport table vs the confort table on 1M bin? Working?
- MDM? Working?
- Variable LC? How do i activate? Not sure it works yet?
- last, does anyone using JB4 mobile on a swap can see the tranny temps on the jb4 mobile or on a log? I can t and before i troubleshoot that i wanted to make sure it was possible to read them. Also wu
What do u set ur timing value: 5? 8?

1) Shift lights are not functional, it's a function of the M3 DME. I'm working with someone to get them to work in non M cars right now.

2) Power button is a function of the M3 DME as well. You can wire it into the same pin in the #1 DME subconnector that the M3 is wired to but nothing will
happen. With the IKM0S bin the M button is roughly the same function. It increases the throttle sensitivity but since these tables are now available for
all ROMs it's not that big a deal. You could also just use the values in all your throttle tables and have it as your default.

3) MDM, not working. Another subfunction of MDrive and the M3 DME.

4) Car warmed up, DSC off, drivelogic on 6, manual mode, hold gearshift forward, flag should pop up, floor the pedal, now use the cruise control stalk either up and down or back and forth (I forget) to adjust in 100 rpm increments, release the gear shift and hang on.

5) No idea about JB4's

 

[Begood69]

1) Shift lights are not functional, it's a function of the M3 DME. I'm working with someone to get them to work in non M cars right now.

2) Power button is a function of the M3 DME as well. You can wire it into the same pin in the #1 DME subconnector that the M3 is wired to but nothing will
happen. With the IKM0S bin the M button is roughly the same function. It increases the throttle sensitivity but since these tables are now available for
all ROMs it's not that big a deal. You could also just use the values in all your throttle tables and have it as your default.

3) MDM, not working. Another subfunction of MDrive and the M3 DME.

4) Car warmed up, DSC off, drivelogic on 6, manual mode, hold gearshift forward, flag should pop up, floor the pedal, now use the cruise control stalk either up and down or back and forth (I forget) to adjust in 100 rpm increments, release the gear shift and hang on.

5) No idea about JB4's

Well thx goe so much disappointment hahha
When those light get working let me know.. Roma is also working on something for that and a lil more.
One more question: on the power/dsc button, how do i get the lighting to it? What pin and source wire? I like ro turn on lights and have the button light up.

Also about JB4 update to v137-T2 beta ST hex. And now reads DCT temps (Terry just fixed it) .

 

[derekgates]

Well thx goe so much disappointment hahha
When those light get working let me know.. Roma is also working on something for that and a lil more.
One more question: on the power/dsc button, how do i get the lighting to it? What pin and source wire? I like ro turn on lights and have the button light up.

Also about JB4 update to v137-T2 beta ST hex. And now reads DCT temps (Terry just fixed it) .

A lot of this stuff just hasn't been discovered yet. The main intention was for the M-DCT programming in the transmission. All of the other pieces were just icing on the cake; mostly restricted to the M3 DME. I feel like we got lucky with how much works!

 

[derekgates]

Well thx goe so much disappointment hahha
When those light get working let me know.. Roma is also working on something for that and a lil more.
One more question: on the power/dsc button, how do i get the lighting to it? What pin and source wire? I like ro turn on lights and have the button light up.

Also about JB4 update to v137-T2 beta ST hex. And now reads DCT temps (Terry just fixed it) .

I've been digging around trying to find pinout of that triple button setup... not having much luck

RealOEM.com - Online BMW Parts Catalog

BMW parts 3' E92 LCI M3 Switch unit M3

www.realoem.com

http://www.shrani.si/f/G/fL/2lp3YVG1/e90-general-vehicle-elet.pdf

https://archive.org/details/BMWTechnicalTrainingDocuments/page/n15/mode/2up

ST 813 M DCT Drivelogic : BMW AG : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Info about the BMW M DCT Drivelogic transmission.

archive.org

BMW Technical Training Documents

archive.org

bleh...

 

[LMB335is]

Well thx goe so much disappointment hahha
When those light get working let me know.. Roma is also working on something for that and a lil more.
One more question: on the power/dsc button, how do i get the lighting to it? What pin and source wire? I like ro turn on lights and have the button light up.

Also about JB4 update to v137-T2 beta ST hex. And now reads DCT temps (Terry just fixed it) .

Pin 2 is for power. Just tap it into the cigarette lighter (if you have that) illumination lead or some other source close by.

 

[derekgates]

Pin 2 is for power. Just tap it into the cigarette lighter (if you have that) illumination lead or some other source close by.

Damn where did you find that? I was having trouble finding any documentation on that. You are a wealth of knowledge!

 

[LMB335is]

Damn where did you find that? I was having trouble finding any documentation on that. You are a wealth of knowledge!

Ha! On a scrap of paper that I jotted it down on a couple yrs ago. I have a folder full of useful/useless car stuff.

 

[derekgates]

Ha! On a scrap of paper that I jotted it down on a couple yrs ago. I have a folder full of useful/useless car stuff.

*useless* car stuff, lol.


Well, that's great to know! I wanted to wire mine up for illumination as it has extremely limited uses outside of filling a hole.