Let talk outlets!!!

[Aaron]

Logs show boost was the same. And the car was tuned before and after by v8bait on scene.

 

[Rob@RBTurbo]

Tons and tons of samples show outlets do next to nothing in the real world.

Meanwhile contrary to the rest of the platform Aaron had outlets installed, tune changed, saw some improvements on the dyno.

My $.02: If under ~550whp, certainly save your money and/or headaches.

Rob

 

[Aaron]

Show us these dynos in"the real world?" Because I have a before and after, with no other changes aside from a tune to account for the changes to the outlets, showing gains throughout the entire rev range, with peak gains of 13whp and 52wtq. That's a 10% torque increase, for a few hundred dollars and less than a day's worth of work.

 

[martymil]

Here are two guys that make outlets for a living and I use v8bait too and we sell these every week but we don't promise our customers gains that don't exist.

There are gains on the rhd pipe because they are so badly squished but at anything under 23psi on lhd and modified rhd is a waste of money.

Its only when you start running 25+ you start to see what you have with big outlets other save your money for something else

 

[Jeffman]

Show us these dynos in"the real world?" Because I have a before and after, with no other changes aside from a tune to account for the changes to the outlets, showing gains throughout the entire rev range, with peak gains of 13whp and 52wtq. That's a 10% torque increase, for a few hundred dollars and less than a day's worth of work.

Hi Aaron,
I max out my stock turbos at ~23psi with100% WGDC and would love to see your before and after results. Please include detailed conditions, car set-up, fueling, which outlets, etc.
Thank you,
Jeff

 

[Aaron]

Chart is on page 2, I've posted the logs a number of times but don't want to go find them again.

Car was FBO stock turbos, stage 2 LPFP stock fuel otherwise, full e85, and it was done in Houston.

The outlets were MMP multi-piece metal ones, they were the first outlets to come out, but I've since swapped to Pinnacle ones.

 

[JuniorB]

Thought this may be the place for my outlet recommendation. I’ve been looking for everything possible that would be a benefit to running a only stage one turbo. I’ve been eyeballing the VTT aluminum since this this is the only option for an e60, besides silicone. A big thanks to EPH and thumbs up to VTT for the quality of this piece, along with the suburb packaging they provided. As you can see, there is just no comparing the two, the couplers are opened up, a nice sweep from the front turbo, exiting a smooth transition to the coupler. Not one bad complain for the product, but... So last night I installed it on the engine that’s on a stand, doing this ahead of time before drop in, and found that without distorting the silicone coupler, this is were it sits. I tried for a while to manipulate the two to bring it out, but no go. It’s right against the manifold, so I know it’s going to burn thru. I ended up wrapping the area with dei wrap, and covering that with there heat cover provided in the kit. I’m looking for a heat shield, any one else see this with there upgraded outlet?

 

[Rob@RBTurbo]

The big "mouth" opening of that new outlet is going to do nothing for you, as the turbo it is mating to is going only be the size of the OEM outlet "mouth". The OE pipe's transitional adapter is actually going to help out your cause, not hinder it. Anyway the lack of the transitional adapter looks cool by itself but you need to consider the parts working together.

Ultimately if you are a Stage 1 turbo you are likely well below 500whp, so save the headaches and just use the OE outlet.

Rob

 

[JuniorB]

A concern was the front turbo sweep, compared the the oem, it’s a big difference. I’m surprised there isn’t WGDC difference between the two. I did port out the oem one, but that sweep was still a concern. This is also for e60 guys, I’ll send more pics when I work on it again.

 

[TheFixer]

The big "mouth" opening of that new outlet is going to do nothing for you, as the turbo it is mating to is going only be the size of the OEM outlet "mouth". The OE pipe's transitional adapter is actually going to help out your cause, not hinder it. Anyway the lack of the transitional adapter looks cool by itself but you need to consider the parts working together.

Ultimately if you are a Stage 1 turbo you are likely well below 500whp, so save the headaches and just use the OE outlet.

Rob

I have the two piece metal vrsf ones from rob. Nightmare to install on an e60. Doable. But if your not going for over 500hp.... save your sanity and keep the stock outlets.

I wish I hadn't sold mine when I had put the silicon outlets in.