You guys could just make a dry sump kit and then you won't need a scavenge pump for the turbo...plus it would make me happy.
turbo drain oil scavenge pumps?
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I would love a dry sump system on my car, looked into it but the cost outweighed the benefit, ended up using a vac baffle in the sump instead
https://store.vacmotorsports.com/mobile/vac-motorsports-oil-pan-baffle-bmw-n54-p1435.aspx
https://store.vacmotorsports.com/mobile/vac-motorsports-oil-pan-baffle-bmw-n54-p1435.aspx
There's room for an integrated sump/pump kit like this one:
https://www.vividracing.com/power-b...mp-kit-honda-k20-k24-engines-p-151655774.html
No chance of fitting that in our engine bay that pan is just to high, the only way you could do one is externalize the pump and then there is no room for it that either.
Looked into it, either way it would be a minimum 10k exercise.
Looked into it, either way it would be a minimum 10k exercise.
On a dry sump, there's suction in the pan to scavenge the oil and reduce windage. So, routing the turbo outlet to the drain pan bolt in an integrated setup would work just fine. You may very well be right on first article cost though.
I think he's referring to the massive size pumps needed for the sump. The pan will fit fine as will the pluming. I believe VTT runs a sump on their racecar. I looked into this for my engine as well but the price was astronomical and not ideal for daily driving.
The fabricator i work with builds 4 dry sumps a week for gtr's and he knows what it takes to build one, when we had the car on the hoist we explored the possibility but he admitted it would be crazy expensive if at all possible, the expense outweighs the benefits.
Unless you have already spent every last dollar on the engine/car setup and there is nothing left to do but the sump then go for it, if you have money to blow. There is cheaper ways to go faster.
Sequential box
Properly setup suspension.
Better wheels (carbon fibre)
Syvecs
Better Tyres.
Carbon fibre body panels.
Carbon fibre rotors
Im only scraping the top of the barrel what will make your car go faster and cheaper.
The parts mentioned already cost more than most of our cars cost and each one will gain you better results than a
dry sump system that hasn't been designed or proven yet.
Just something to think about.
Unless you have already spent every last dollar on the engine/car setup and there is nothing left to do but the sump then go for it, if you have money to blow. There is cheaper ways to go faster.
Sequential box
Properly setup suspension.
Better wheels (carbon fibre)
Syvecs
Better Tyres.
Carbon fibre body panels.
Carbon fibre rotors
Im only scraping the top of the barrel what will make your car go faster and cheaper.
The parts mentioned already cost more than most of our cars cost and each one will gain you better results than a
dry sump system that hasn't been designed or proven yet.
Just something to think about.
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I did a lot of research into scavenge pumps, and came across this which many absolutely love (across many platforms) and is apparently better than Mocal as well: https://www.rbracing-rsr.com/oilsystems.htm
The one we would want is the 03-1034
The one we would want is the 03-1034
RBrracing is good, On my old cars low mount system I went with their pump and it worked fine but it's a hassle so if you can avoid it, do so. I ended changing my turbo kit up to get away from it.
Just worrying about pump failure, mounting, hose routing, wiring, etc. I did have a fail safe but it was just extra crap that I did not want to deal with. Of course this was on a turbo RX8 where everything was tight AF to fit.
The problem you have with scavenge pumps is getting the balance right between suction and turbo drain, this is where the turbo drain sump comes in to play and a properly setup breather system not to suck the cartridge dry.
Its a bit of a pain in the ass to get right and if you can get away not using it your better off as the cost can/will run above 1k, better off spending the money else where
Its a bit of a pain in the ass to get right and if you can get away not using it your better off as the cost can/will run above 1k, better off spending the money else where
