New HPFP Upgrade - SpoolPerformance Helix

[H3dge]

Do you mean : after installing Helix HPFP overdrive unit, your Doc 6266 28psi DI only ,without any aux injection like PI/METH, Full E85, rail pressure hold 3000+ psi to the redline ? and at least ,you have run the setup for over 1500 miles

Yes, to Redline I'm holding 3000 PSI at rail. Slight dips here and there below that 3000 mark, but it goes up and down.
I'm talking like +/- 100 PSI. Lots of stable pressure, at least no issues so far.

Well, I guess that pretty much says it without saying it.

Logs are definitely coming, but I'm only one car on one tune.
I can throw up my logs, but I dont want to cut the feet out from under spool performance. They've been gathering logs from all the tuners to make their "Big Reveal".

And so the tables won't be released to the public ?

Tables will be released to public after official launch. I was told this specifically after making the purchase for my pre-release unit.

 

[SJ_1989]

@H3dge so you are running the 3x version?

 

[LazyMe870]

I was trying to get my hands on one of the pre sale units, I contacted spool performance, and told them I'm currently running a single barrel and would like to upgrade to their unit and try t hit 600whp on full E85. Well to my surprise they told me that once the tables are released, it'll help out my current single barrel shotgun perform better and I might not need to change out the single barrel for their unit. COOL!!

 

[typedRew]

I was trying to get my hands on one of the pre sale units, I contacted spool performance, and told them I'm currently running a single barrel and would like to upgrade to their unit and try t hit 600whp on full E85. Well to my surprise they told me that once the tables are released, it'll help out my current single barrel shotgun perform better and I might not need to change out the single barrel for their unit. COOL!!

talk about stout (non)customer support

 

[Traf]

I was trying to get my hands on one of the pre sale units, I contacted spool performance, and told them I'm currently running a single barrel and would like to upgrade to their unit and try t hit 600whp on full E85. Well to my surprise they told me that once the tables are released, it'll help out my current single barrel shotgun perform better and I might not need to change out the single barrel for their unit. COOL!!

Why do you think i want the tables so bad ?

 

[9krpmrx8]

talk about stout (non)customer support

I have had nothing but great support from the owner, with the ignition kit and the ethanol analyser as well.

 

[Panzerfaust]

Yep, @SpoolPerformance is good people. I'm truly grateful to be a beta tester for them honestly. Also I'm a little surprised people would think the tables wouldn't be made public after the official release, but like @double.spaces said there's lots of naysaying and whining in this thread, especially for a beta product. Newer vendor doesnt mean a bad or greedy vendor. With all the AD-E's, Cobb's, Nizpro's etc who could've had something to offer the platform, let's not chase another one away yeah?

Like I said in my earlier post, this (line of) product is going to completely change things imo. Less than the cost of the lowest-potential PI setup with way easier of an install and no extra ECUs to tack on to them, but a huge gain in performance. It feels to me likes it's on the same level of going from JB4 to MHD or stock turbo to upgraded. Big difference and a very very obviously superior upgrade. I know there's some other DI only solutions coming down the pipes from other companies and I wish them luck, but unless they're as simple to run as the Helix (install is about...3/4s of a HPFP replacement and done? I did this by myself in my garage at 9pm having never even taken the IM off before which was the most daunting part) and as well priced, I see this as being the go-to for the majority of people wanting over ~600whp soon - as long as they can keep it on the shelves for the people that want one. Getting an N54 to over-double its stock crank HP at the wheels is going to be easier and cheaper than ever. Turbo upgrade, stage 2 fuel pump + e50, Helix and you're done.

 

[RuskiRacer]

Yep, @SpoolPerformance is good people. I'm truly grateful to be a beta tester for them honestly. Also I'm a little surprised people would think the tables wouldn't be made public after the official release, but like @double.spaces said there's lots of naysaying and whining in this thread, especially for a beta product. Newer vendor doesnt mean a bad or greedy vendor. With all the AD-E's, Cobb's, Nizpro's etc who could've had something to offer the platform, let's not chase another one away yeah?

Like I said in my earlier post, this (line of) product is going to completely change things imo. Less than the cost of the lowest-potential PI setup with way easier of an install and no extra ECUs to tack on to them, but a huge gain in performance. It feels to me likes it's on the same level of going from JB4 to MHD or stock turbo to upgraded. Big difference and a very very obviously superior upgrade. I know there's some other DI only solutions coming down the pipes from other companies and I wish them luck, but unless they're as simple to run as the Helix (install is about...3/4s of a HPFP replacement and done? I did this by myself in my garage at 9pm having never even taken the IM off before which was the most daunting part) and as well priced, I see this as being the go-to for the majority of people wanting over ~600whp soon - as long as they can keep it on the shelves for the people that want one. Getting an N54 to over-double its stock crank HP at the wheels is going to be easier and cheaper than ever. Turbo upgrade, stage 2 fuel pump + e50, Helix and you're done.

I wish it was easy as your last sentence. Alot of people have to upgrade clutch and flywheel plus maybe injectors and coilpacks to achieve a easy 600 whp

 

[Seaneezy]

Anybody making 700whp with 100-% e85. Id like to get rid of PI,i cant shake the feeling that PI took my engine out on my last misfire.

Was this before or after the MHD PI misfire "fix"?

 

[Jake@MHD]

Was this before or after the MHD PI misfire "fix"?

Had to be before, otherwise it was something else that took his engine out

 

[Seaneezy]

Had to be before, otherwise it was something else that took his engine out

I ask because im just unsure of the MHD fix, AFAIK the syvecs ECU is the only way for completely safe PI, but I could be very wrong

 

[Jake@MHD]

I ask because im just unsure of the MHD fix, AFAIK the syvecs ECU is the only way for completely safe PI, but I could be very wrong

It cuts the power to the ignition coils when the DI injectors are cut, so there is no spark during a misfire cylinder shutdown. Therefore no hyperlean from PI fuel + spark...because no spark

 

[Seaneezy]

It cuts the power to the ignition coils when the DI injectors are cut, so there is no spark during a misfire cylinder shutdown. Therefore no hyperlean from PI fuel + spark...because no spark

This is a direct signal from the DME? So the signal should be as fast as the native signal to the DI injectors?

 

[Jake@MHD]

This is a direct signal from the DME? So the signal should be as fast as the native signal to the DI injectors?

Yes, spark is cut at the exact same instant as the DI injectors.

 

[Seaneezy]

Yes, spark is cut at the exact same instant as the DI injectors.

Nice! I was holding off on activating PI in my tune for a while but this gives me a lot of confidence.

 

[Panzerfaust]

I wish it was easy as your last sentence. Alot of people have to upgrade clutch and flywheel plus maybe injectors and coilpacks to achieve a easy 600 whp

I mean I have several other non-HP related upgrades too but most of that is more maintenance or reliability upgrades. A clutch, coils, plugs and even sometimes injectors go out and will need replaced anyways.

Yes I exaggerated if we're talking a reliable ~625whp daily with a 6-pack of parts, but my point was that now you can skip the pleasure of having to drill holes, run extra fuel lines, external FPR, an intake manifold or sandwich plate, injectors and an AIC + additional tune or JB4 just to address the fueling for a solid 600-650.

 

[BQTuning]

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FWIW

Car is a 335is DCT FBO+ with RB Turbos and upgraded LPFP . He is making 525 whp and 531 wtq with E40-E45 fuel per Dynojet

Before the Helix OD x3 install

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[BQTuning]

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After the Helix OD x3 install, same map as before, nothing has changed

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I want to note, please dont use this to go bickering to whoever is tuning you. To plainly put it, no two N54 cars are the same especially between INA0S vs I8A0S cars etc "IMO". There is also reports of a gear rattle after the car is started and then goes away. Not sure if this was mentioned before.

Admin: I had to make two separate posts, server would not allow two data-logs to be posted in a single post

 

[Rcboosted2007]

Was this before or after the MHD PI misfire "fix"?

Im not sure,When was the “fix” put into play? I had twisted tunning running flashes for me.

 

[yuli8466]

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After the Helix OD x3 install, same map as before, nothing has changed

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I want to note, please dont use this to go bickering to whoever is tuning you. To plainly put it, no two N54 cars are the same especially between INA0S vs I8A0S cars etc "IMO". There is also reports of a gear rattle after the car is started and then goes away. Not sure if this was mentioned before.

Admin: I had to make two separate posts, server would not allow two data-logs to be posted in a single post

when install helix ,do you need to change on the flash dme side ?