N54 Waterpump Control

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So after reading all 20 pages of this thread: https://www.spoolstreet.com/threads...re-your-temps-during-extended-track-use.4352/.

I have a few questions and was hoping I can get some clarification for my own knowledge.

So as far as I understand, if the DME determines it should be in "normal" mode per se, it will target a 104c coolant temp. Now in order for the DME to target 85c, you must either go WOT, or the ambient temp has to be over 42c. Now that thread brought up an interesting observation, the fact that both of those conditions may be unlikely to be true when on a specific track. I do not have experience on the track but from what I understand from reading that thread it seems that you would rarely go full throttle, and, the ambient temp is rarely 42c.

So this means if you are driving the car hard but do not meet one of those conditions, say 90% throttle and 35c ambient, the DME may still think its in "normal" mode thus targeting a coolant temp of 104c. Now my question arises here, if you're driving the car hard, but never enter high+kft mode, and coolant say goes to 110c. Is the waterpump flowing at its maximum 9000LPH? Or does it only flow at its maximum in high+kft mode?

In other words, even if the DME is in normal mode, and coolant temp goes over the target of 104c, is the DME running the cooling system at full tilt?

If not, this seems kind of flawed as you'd have to enter high+kft mode for the cooling system to be working at 100%, which in the secnario I had just described, would never happen.

Just looking for some clarification here, thank you all.
 

JohnDaviz

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why should the waterpump duty cycle dependend on the target temp?

And you can change the cooling targets in a custom tune.
 

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why should the waterpump duty cycle dependend on the target temp?

And you can change the cooling targets in a custom tune.
Well I just figured if the DME is in normal mode, and is targeting 104c, and as such I’d it’s pushed on track and coolant goes to 110c, then shouldn’t the water pump be maxed out? Along with the thermostat fully open to reduce the temp? It shouldn’t matter that it’s not in high+kft mode right?
 

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Well I just figured if the DME is in normal mode, and is targeting 104c, and as such I’d it’s pushed on track and coolant goes to 110c, then shouldn’t the water pump be maxed out? Along with the thermostat fully open to reduce the temp? It shouldn’t matter that it’s not in high+kft mode right?
no the thermal capacity is maxxed out.
 

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George was/is the smartest guy in that place.
wait. George?

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